Willtell
1:02 Fri Jan 9
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That's right On The Ball. I wonder how many jumped to a conclusion before reading this -
On Thursday Evans apologised for the "effects of his actions", but continued to maintain his innocence. He later issued a further statement blaming "mob rule" for the deal's collapse, claiming "the more radical elements of our society" had the "desired influence on some sponsors".
Oldham chief executive Neil Joy said there had been "vile and abusive threats, including death threats, made to our fans, sponsors and staff" over the proposed signing.
Really! Death threats!
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Northern Sold
1:02 Fri Jan 9
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Getting beyond a joke now
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Valley Hammer
1:01 Fri Jan 9
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Spot on, the media making a mountain out of a molehill with the usual Hillsborough/Anfield victims looking to spoil for a fight.
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lincshammer
1:00 Fri Jan 9
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I honestly don't think that a football club gives one fuck what professionally offended people on twitter, epetitions twitter etc think, they care when there sponsors pull the plug which is what they are doing.
If all Oldhams sponsors guaranteed that they wouldn't pull out if Evans signed than I reckon Oldham would of signed him regardless. As it stands Evans is a convicted rapist so you can see why companies don't want to be associated with that.
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On The Ball
12:56 Fri Jan 9
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southwoodford 11:19 Fri Jan 9
I don't think that's right though. Oldham supporters haven't decided that they don't want him, loads of professionally offended people who should keep their noses out have decided.
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Mr Polite
12:54 Fri Jan 9
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He was comparing a potential miscarriage of justice with a massive miscarriage of justice that everyone has heard of.
He might be a useless cock who shoudln't be in the job - but he has done nothing wrong in this instance.
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Razzle
12:52 Fri Jan 9
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Having looked at the evidence it looks Evans has a strong case. I doubt he will receive the thousands of apologies when its over turned.
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Willtell
12:47 Fri Jan 9
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You may well be right about Taylor DJH but are you slagging him from the headline?
What he actually said was not comparing a rapist with Hillsborough - this is the key phrase -
"He wouldn't have been the first person to be found guilty, maintained their innocence and been proved right. We know what happened with Hillsborough," Taylor told BBC Sport.
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Buster
12:43 Fri Jan 9
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DJH 12:40 Fri Jan 9
He's looked at the conviction and he feels it may well be a dodgy one. Steve Bruce has just come out and said he feels the same, and looking at the case it's not hard to see why.
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DJH
12:40 Fri Jan 9
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Buster the problem with that is Taylor is so far out of touch with the real world that it is not really that surprising he believes that.
Footballers rarely have to face up to the real world and people like Taylor are massive reason in controlling why they don't have to so when they lose control in situations like this you see how clueless they really are.
Evans maybe cleared but I am positive like the convicted rapist and his family Taylor feelings are based mainly on what he feels constitute rape than what Mr Evans actions were but as it stands the law today sees it differently, until that changes Taylor should respect the law but believe me like many who find themselves with power (and money) they often believe they are above it.
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mentor
12:40 Fri Jan 9
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Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Thats not what he said was it?
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Willtell
12:36 Fri Jan 9
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Taylor is an advocate for his members and does it well. He may well think Evans is innocent but even if he doesn't, he would say much the same.
I think the real problem for a lot of people that look into this is that rapist means violently enforced sexual intercourse to most people. The actual definition is somewhat different than that.
No-one wants a violent rapist in their football team. Evans clearly thought he was having consensual sex but the girl claims to have been comatose and remembering nothing. The blood test evidence did not find any alcohol the day after. Small traces of pot and cocaine were found....
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Eggbert Nobacon
12:36 Fri Jan 9
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what a surprise Taylor has been forced to apologise
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Buster
12:19 Fri Jan 9
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I've heard Gordon Taylor speak about the case a few times. He clearly thinks Evans is innocent.
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stoneman
11:59 Fri Jan 9
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Gordon Taylor soon to become the 97th victim of Hillsborough.
Never mess with the H96.
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Razzle
11:22 Fri Jan 9
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http://www.chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself
have a look.
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southwoodford
11:19 Fri Jan 9
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This says all you need to know about the brain dead cretins that run this industry. Ched Evans is toxic waste right now, but owners, managers and football industry leaders don't get it and are clearly struggling to understand that public opinion decides these things. And the public have decided that they don't want convicted rapists playing for their teams. As for Gordon '1970s' Taylor - the best thing he can do is move over for somebody actually in touch with the modern world.
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Razzle
11:13 Fri Jan 9
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I think it will be interesting if Ched Evans is acquitted on appeal. That being the situation it totally undermines rape victims and the woman in this case should face criminal prosecution.
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On The Ball
11:05 Fri Jan 9
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Of course he should be able to go back to television - IF a channel wants to employ him. And even then no-one is forced to watch the programmes he's on. He should be kept away from children as he's officially a danger to them, but that's it.
Obviously no-one will employ him, but that's up to them.
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Willtell
11:04 Fri Jan 9
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Russ of the BML 10:31 Fri Jan 9
"I think the big question you have to ask yourself is this? If you work for a large organisation, as I do, and you were convicted of rape would you get the job you are doing at the moment?"
No you wouldn't. Probably not in a small organisation either. Especially if you had to work with women.
The whole point about this in my view, is that Evans still protests his innocence and wouldn't apologise. Having read about it in detail including the appeal documents there is a real possibility in my mind, that Evans was not actually guilty.
I can imagine how easy it is for young girls to trap a footballer these days....
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DJH
10:56 Fri Jan 9
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Marston but if your company knew there would be a backlash hitting them big time in the pocket eventually do you really think you would?
For me I knew Taylor lost the plot on this matter when he started saying footballers were not role models, well what exactly are they then when you have millions of kids looking up at you and businesses paying you money to influence them, if he cannot accept with that comes with all the money they get for this is some social responsibility both morally to the public and financially to your sponsors then what hope has the game got.
Yes in the ideal world we should get everything form our parents but we don't live in that world and most if not all of us have been influenced by footballers growing up if it was only buying a pair of Dunlops because of Sir Trev, Mr Evans for some kid was a role model whether he like it or not and should accordingly otherwise risk the consequences sadly listening to Mr Taylor what chance to players have with a person like him leading them.
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